"Blackout On Silence" parameters

Posted about 2 months ago by Kevin Neill

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There might be a way to do this but I haven't found it.  Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity for the Blackout On Silence feature attached to a cue? It might be good to have a control for how fast it fades out.  Ideally it would be great to adjust this per cue, but if it could only be a global thing I would create a cue that I just put at the end of each song and only have Blackout On Silence enabled on that one cue.

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Technical Support posted about 1 month ago Admin

That's great Kevin! Appreciate this feedback though I must admit we might not get to adding this feature in the near future.

Something exciting we've got in a longer term plan is creating a better algorithm that detects music vs non-music.  So, this way even if you were say talking between songs, that would count as non-music, and when you're playing that would be music.  This is an even more robust solution we feel, though I hear you on some power users potentially wanting more ability to 'dial-in' the settings of our audio algorithms responsiveness/timing also... it's a tricky one as we're trying to strike a balance between having a simple/easy to use system, while also allowing all of the customization / controls that people need to make it use-able in a range of use cases. We also don't want folks to mess with the settings and then get their boxes into a weird state where it's not working as expected and they get frustrated, that can happen sometimes too....  So far we sometimes hide these advanced features behind the little <> arrows...  anyway now i'm just rambling a bit.  Thanks again for your engagement with our product :)

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Kevin Neill posted about 2 months ago

After giving this some more thought, it would be good to have control of either the fade out time or perhaps  how long it takes from the time Maestro recognizes the silence to when it starts the fade.  Or perhaps both parameters could be tied together.   If a user is concerned that they might get blackouts in the middle of a song, they could set the new threshold and fade-out parameters to avoid that.  As someone using it in a band it would be good if we don’t have to stand there for 5-10 seconds trying to keep our instruments completely silent to get the effect.  My idea is to only have this feature turned on for a single cue and then trigger that cue via midi at the the end of any songs where a blackout would be a good effect.  So I’m not too worried about blackouts mid-song and since it’s hard to stay perfectly in time with midi, having it triggered by silence is the perfect tool.  Aside from that, I’m learning the capabilities of the maestro the more I work with it and I’m loving what it can do for my bands.   Absolute killer product!!!

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Technical Support posted about 2 months ago Admin

Sounds good, yeah it's on our radar but I can't commit to a timeline on this at the moment.  A gate would work well (combined with some de-noising / EQ maybe).  

And yeah fade out time for silence does need to have a bit of a delay... just so that we are absolutely sure it's silence time and we aren't going dark in the middle of songs hehe. Hope that makes sense.  Thanks again for your feedback!

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Kevin Neill posted about 2 months ago

Thanks, I appreciate you bringing it up with the team.  It’s a very cool feature.  Especially for a live band.  In the meantime I’ll look into seeing if I can put a gate on the output of the mix that’s feeding the maestro.  You mentioned the fade out time earlier that you believe to be 1-2 seconds and I think you may be right.  I’ve been working with the lights at home setting up the show and I think once the maestro decides that there’s silence, the fade out time is appropriate. 

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Technical Support posted about 2 months ago Admin

Not at this time, though I'm going to bring this up to the team. 

For now maybe there is a way to condition the signal before it gets to our system?  It works well for cleaner audio sources but I can see the struggle in a live music environment.

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Kevin Neill posted about 2 months ago

Is there anything to adjust the input sensitivity?  It would be good to get past any guitar hum etc.

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Technical Support posted about 2 months ago Admin

Thanks for the feedback Kevin!  As of now there is not parameter to change how quickly it blacks out, i think it's set to 1-2seconds.

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